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I've had these trousers for a few months now, here's a picture of the grey flannel for anyone who's interested in what the color looks like. Sized up 2 (for that relaxed and neat Schneider vibe), had the waistband tightened and had them hemmed to no break/micro break. I'm just patiently awaiting my oxford now. Sometimes you just gotta look like a respectable grown man.