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ok, not generally into posting fit pics but thought it's part of this process so here goes: note i have extremely mixed emotions about the shoulder pads (knee jerk anti-shoulder pad from the 80s vs a natural loathing of taking anything to the tailor; still trying to get my head around it). i'm fairly certain i'm a full size up from the house fit though i was fully aware of that going in and have no problem with it (thank god i don't do this for eprops). longish sleeves with turned up cuffs on purpose. i'd probably be happier with a half size down so very pro-computerized patterns if it helps get incremental sizes going on the mtm stuff.